Many collectors will consider this more valued than an arsenal rebuild with an unmatched slide and frame but no where near what an all original gun is valued at. This is why the gun could be considered "restored". A proper Ithaca slide was located and the gun was then re-finished. This gun was bought with a frame with mostly Ithaca parts on it however had a slide on it from another company. Most Ithaca 45's will bear FJA at an angle on the frame near the trigger and are known to have more tooling marks left behind than other manufactures.
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You have to look for inspector marks and check serial numbers on the frame. In a nut shell just because the slide says Ithaca does not mean the gun is made up of all Ithaca parts. Because of this only a precious few guns of any vintage are still intact in the same condition as when they left the factory and command a premium price. They will bear an additional stamp of the arsenal that did the work, mine shows Springfield Armory. These guns are often referred to as an arsenal rebuild. The guns are then re-assembled often with little or no regard as to who produced the parts going back onto the gun. After service most firearms are sent to one of several arsenals for inspection, repair, and re-finishing. To give you an idea Ithaca used a number of Colt made frames that where left in storage after WWI barrels produced by High Standard and that is just for starters. Manufactures are also known to sub contract parts from other companies. Part of fulfilling any government fire arms contract is that all parts must be interchangeable with any other gun of the same model no mater who produced it. The 1911A1 for example was produced by Colt, Remington Rand (a type writer company), Ithaca, and Singer the sewing machine company during WWII. Most modern US military firearms models have been made by multiple manufactures some not even being previously in the firearms business. For those of you who are considering buying an original piece but do not know what to look for here are a few basic pointers. This example is what is often referred to in military arms collecting circles as a "restored" piece. Products Tests from M1911.-These are pictures of my personal WWII era Ithaca 45.The M1911 in Law Enforcement & Military.M1911 Disassembly and reassembly animations.Gunsmithing, Troubleshooting & Refinishing.1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US.Commercial Colt Government Model, Ace, SM Ace, Super.US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols.More than one of the above (questions pertaining to more than one brands).Your Opinion about M1911.ORG and its sites.Questions and Suggestions about M1911.ORG sites.Industry Announcements and Press Releases.Quick Navigation US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols Top What I am wanting to do is have the proper parts blued as Ithaca would have done (Dulite solution?) and the rest of the pistol to be phosphated. Mechanically it appears to be in perfect shape but the finish is pretty worn. Barrel has a small “P” stamped on the left side of the locking lugįrom what I was told, the friend’s father was issued this shortly after the war ended and has kept it ever since. Slide has a “P” stamped on the top behind the ejection portĨ. Brown plastic checkered grips have a star/k and “26” molded into the backsħ. Ithaca inspection marking on left side trigger guard (looks like a rounded igloo)Ħ. “FJA” and “P” stamped on left of receiverĥ. Crossed cannon logo on right of receiverĤ. “US Property” marked along with “M 1911 A1 US Army” on the left of the receiverģ. Is there a single best book I can order which will allow me to see what this have looked like?Ģ. A friend of mine asked me to refinish his Ithaca M1911A1 as it “would have looked coming off the assembly line”.
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